tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post248617703576557148..comments2024-03-26T00:52:24.638-04:00Comments on Real World Illustrator: Have you seen Thermo?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795570164435872662noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-66865952187076806442007-10-16T16:14:00.000-04:002007-10-16T16:14:00.000-04:00I don't derive any benefit from Flex because I hav...I don't derive any benefit from Flex because I have Privoxy block all Flash content from the network ;)<BR/><BR/>The AIR/Apollo gizmos look fun and all, but Kai Krause did the whole blob-shaped windows thing to death decades ago and I've yet to see a "widget" of any make or model that actually enhanced my life with rich internet experiences. They're the desktop equivalent of the pet rock, offering developers little-to-no access to any of the OS's important APIs which make genuinely useful applications genuinely useful. So I can click a button and look up a word in the dictionary or get a stock quote; I could do that before, and without wasting tons of RAM and processor cycles on a superfluous process which continuously struggles to compile and execute code written in various interpreted languages. There's only so much you can do with HTTP, and I'd personally prefer it if it were done in a web browser the same way I prefer watching TV shows on my TV in my living room rather than on my cellpodPDAphone while I'm on the bus. Once something comes along to successfully usurp that ubiquitous stateless protocol then that will possibly be life-changing. Everything else is just a highly-polished retrofitted afterthought. <BR/><BR/>As for web mockups--yeah that could be useful, but I have a feeling it's going to encourage laziness more than innovation or productivity. How many web designers/developers market themselves as accomplished pros just because they pirated a copy of Dreamweaver and made some really ugly animated rollovers? How many more will be all too willing to slap their name on whatever code Adobe auto-generated for them and pass it off as a finished product? The days of the obnoxious all-Flash website with Java ripple splash pages and accompanying soundtracks may soon return (although admittedly, wedding photographers, industrial designers and fast-food chains never really stopped using them). <BR/><BR/>I know, you can't blame the tool for the craftsman, but some things just shouldn't be easy; lowers the standards and devalues quality work in the public's already woefully uneducated eyes. If patients started posting ads for student brain surgeons on craigslist and haggling with doctors by saying things like "My 11 year old nephew could cut out this tumor with his I-Webs for less than minimum wage!" they'd probably get slapped with a more deserved frequency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-42431748651781108172007-10-11T15:06:00.000-04:002007-10-11T15:06:00.000-04:00Looks really good. The similarities with Flash tho...Looks really good. <BR/><BR/>The similarities with Flash though are untrue when you think about it. Especiallly FL CS3's ability to turn animation into code. That said the interface looks amazing and much more attractive than flash IMH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-20961714433664420372007-10-11T09:52:00.000-04:002007-10-11T09:52:00.000-04:00HAHA XAML and Blend. "ZAM-UHL." lame. Why does ...HAHA XAML and Blend. "ZAM-UHL." lame. Why does MS have to always come and try to use their money to grab market share of areas where it's unnecessary? Really, there's already a standard. Let it be MS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-54675688139301067532007-10-10T10:11:00.000-04:002007-10-10T10:11:00.000-04:00Somebody stealing sth >>FROMSomebody stealing sth >>FROM<< MS. That's a new one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-90122424976560499612007-10-09T23:07:00.000-04:002007-10-09T23:07:00.000-04:00I hear you khiltd -- but there's alot about Thermo...I hear you khiltd -- but there's alot about Thermo that I think is life-changing -- more than initially meets the eye. First, the UI is really nice and clean. Kinda like how I like the Lightroom UI as well. Also, it means you can design a fully-functioning design mockup or comp of even a website to show a client.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure how you derive any less benefit from Flex than you do PostScript. Maybe not today, but it isn't far off in the future... Besides Flex is just the guts -- we don't need to know of its existence.<BR/><BR/>Woody, I'm quite familiar with XAML and Blend. I was looking into XAML way back when I was still a PM on the Illustrator team. Cool stuff all around, but Thermo is positioned as a product for designers, not developers. The interface and ease of use are clear examples of that. You make a good point though.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795570164435872662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-60521754511620524202007-10-09T22:10:00.000-04:002007-10-09T22:10:00.000-04:00This is stolen directly from MS. Check out XAML an...This is stolen directly from MS. Check out XAML and Blend. Still it's a good idea.Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057163658343055285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-37004993650075125362007-10-09T16:26:00.000-04:002007-10-09T16:26:00.000-04:00I'm not really a big fan of web sites with bizarre...I'm not really a big fan of web sites with bizarre, non-standardized boutique interfaces that move around a lot and make a ton of noise, so I personally wish Adobe would divert some of this extra manpower into something that actually benefitted everyone rather than just widget eye candy fanboys--like getting typography on the web out of the stone age, or building a Flash plugin that didn't slow a Mac to an absolute crawl. The fact that it can take a Photoshop comp as input is kinda neat, but it seems a lot like Interface Builder to me, and I personally derive no benefit from Flex so I have a hard time getting excited about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com