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games adult tube</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-23991768304655505412007-09-21T14:09:00.000-04:002007-09-21T14:09:00.000-04:00I don't know for sure AM -- but I do know this -- ...I don't know for sure AM -- but I do know this -- ID is very different than AI in this regard. ID was built as a "fail-safe" application from the ground up. It is meant to be used in environments like newspaper workflows, where one can't afford to lose work due to crashes, etc.<BR/><BR/>As you know AM, InDesign creates a temp file when you are working on a document. It's rare that you'd ever lose more than 60 seconds of work when using InDesign. I think the Adobe engineers really did some wonderful work on planning out ID well in advance.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, because AI was first coded in the late 1980's, there's a limit to what you can do with the architecture -- and building that "database" functionality isn't possible with AI. When you save a file, Illustrator first makes a temp file and then overwrites your file -- just in case a crash occurs during the save process -- which would leave you with a corrupt file. But there are still too many times where network traffic or unreliable server connections could wreak havoc on Illustrator files.<BR/><BR/>At least that's how I understand it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795570164435872662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-34388216191493805142007-09-21T09:33:00.000-04:002007-09-21T09:33:00.000-04:00Mordy, fwiw, Adobe engineers have assured me (and ...Mordy, fwiw, Adobe engineers have assured me (and my clients) that working off the server is fine, at least for InDesign files, and definitely for InCopy files (it's the only way to work with the IC/ID workflow). <BR/><BR/>Like the first commenter, at least 1/2 of my clients; small to huge, routinely have everyone working off the server for all docs, including CSx ones. (Though personally, I think it'd be faster to open and work on mega 500MB Photoshop files locally, and recommend that when network speed issues come up.) <BR/><BR/>A couple years ago an Adobe "higher up" told me that the main reason Adobe used to (maybe still does? haven't called tech support in a while) tell users to always work locally was because tech support could not deal with all the possible bizarre network configs out there, when glitches would happen and people would call in. Tech support wouldn't be able to figure out if the prob was Illustrator or the server or the network or what. <BR/><BR/>But over the past 5 years or so, this guy said, networks and servers have become far more stable than in the old days. As long as the network was stable, times synched and connections fast, there was no technical reason why working off the server would be harmful. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure you know better than I about this, since you actually *worked* there ;-) but I'm just reporting my experience.Anne-Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091968980534403990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-16434658441620046532007-09-17T09:30:00.000-04:002007-09-17T09:30:00.000-04:00woz - Adobe always suggests that you work on local...woz - Adobe always suggests that you work on local files. Opening and working on files directly off a server opens you up to a plethora of issues. Especially in large companies where network bandwidth is shared by numerous people, the chance for file corruption and momentary loss of network access during read/write times is inevitable. Sure, if oyu have your own private network with enough bandwidth, you can get by, but you're playing with fire.<BR/><BR/>newmango (gary) - yes, Version Cue would be a viable solution for this example (and it was something I discussed with the client). However, there is much to consider before deciding to use Version Cue. Also, just so we're all aware, there's no such thing as a "server edition" of Version Cue -- there's just plain old version cue and that's all :)<BR/><BR/>cg - hmmm... all these questions about Version Cue have got me thinking about writing more about it. It's certainly one of the most misunderstood aspects of Adobe Creative Suite... oh and yes, the client was Windows-based. In their specific case, I'm not sure if things would have been different in a Mac environment. On that note, it's important to realize that it's rare that a company with an in-house IT staff chooses to support a Mac-based in-house design department. Either there is resistance (and the Mac group supports themselves), or the company makes the difficult decision to force the design group to use Windows so that it can be supported by their IT staff. This client was actually a really nice example of how the IT department was trying to understand the needs of the design group and tried working with them. While it's very rare, there ARE companies with large design groups that do have a dedicated Mac-based IT department. The NY Times is one such example.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795570164435872662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-82709202775859917402007-09-15T02:13:00.000-04:002007-09-15T02:13:00.000-04:00I was wondering about Version Cue as well. I have ...I was wondering about Version Cue as well. I have another suggestion: Switch to Mac (looks like the "crash board" is filled with Windows screen shots).CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01098892282560006293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-34415339670063769272007-09-13T16:18:00.000-04:002007-09-13T16:18:00.000-04:00Hi MordyI've never had any use for Version Cue, so...Hi Mordy<BR/><BR/>I've never had any use for Version Cue, so have never used it. But wouldn't it be a solution for a company with multiple artists working on mixed projects? Especially the Version Cue Server edition, which might be well suited for network server oriented tasks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941004580033095807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20113929.post-30659462820424368742007-09-13T06:26:00.000-04:002007-09-13T06:26:00.000-04:00"It was also immediately apparent they were workin..."It was also immediately apparent they were working on their files directly on a network server (rather than copying it to their local drives before opening, etc.)"<BR/><BR/>Hi Mordy, what's wrong with working on a network server? We open everything from indesign, p'shop and illustrator and it just works... Only for really big (500mb or larger) files do we bother to copy to the desktop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com